My name is Osamu Dezaki. I'm the director.
I'll talk about anything as a creator behind the scenes.
I'm Mataichiro Yamamoto. I'm the producer.
I'll be talking with Mr. Dezaki today. I haven't seen you in a long time.
Yes.
Well, it's already past two years since we made this.
Yes... 2 years.
- This was released in 1998. - Yes.
But this is the first time we've watched this movie together.
Yes... This is the first time.
We don't really talk to each other after we finish a project.
What do you mean by that?
However, we have many things to talk about.
We have many stories related to this project.
Memories and recollections.
- This project... - Yes.
- Fifteen years after(the first Golgo movie) - Yes.
People often ask me why it took so long.
One of the reasons is that. The media kept changing.
We considered creating a sponsored TV series after finishing the first film.
But we couldn't make it (just like the film) ...a violent story about an assassin.
So it wasn't easy to put it on TV.
But we weren't sure if this could be another big hit in theaters...
after we spent a lot of money.
The manga version of Golgo 13 is a realistic narrative world...
that Takao Saito created. It was still deep in my mind.
I strongly wanted to make this again.
- I can relate to that. - Can you?
These days, you have to make animation projects very entertaining.
But Golgo created a specific culture under these circumstances.
I think people wanted us to make this into a movie and go see it!
I think so. The comic book is nearing the 120th volume. Right now it's at 118.
It's a great achievement for Takao Saito and Saito Production.
It has over 400 episodes.
Of course, Shougakukan has supported it for a long time. It has over 400 episodes.
Of course, Shougakukan has supported it for a long time.
I think Big Comic Magazine is great, too.
His art even appeared in the Guinness Book of world records.
I would like to continuously make more Golgo 13.
I planned in my mind that you and Mr. Sugino would work together...
to make this project, otherwise I couldn't do this.
But, you and Mr. Sugino were not always working together.
Sometimes, you were working by yourself.
And Mr. Sugino was also working at his own pace... Sometimes, you were working by yourself.
And Mr. Sugino was also working at his own pace...
under those conditions... And Mr. Sugino was also working at his own pace...
under those conditions...
all the timing had to match, otherwise we couldn't make this project.
So, it took 15 years.
But I wish before people ask us why it took so long to make it...
I want them to understand our passion to make this movie, even 15 years later.
I want people to understand Mr. Dezaki's and my enthusiasm towards Goglo 13.
I made the theatrical version of Goglo 13 more than fifteen years ago.
Before I got the offer for this project, I made "BlackJack".
Yes, that's true.
I made BlackJack based on Golgo 13, in some ways.
Oh, really?
BlackJack is a story about an underground professional doctor.
So, when I was making BlackJack...
I thought about how I made Golgo 13.
Although, Golgo 13 is more hard-boiled. I thought about how I made Golgo 13.
Although, Golgo 13 is more hard-boiled.
Under those circumstances, when I got the offer to make a new Golgo...
I accepted without hesitation.
Oh, I see.
No matter what, I thought that unless you and Mr. Sugino's schedule opened...
I couldn't do this.
That means...
I consider Mr. Takao Saito as my master in some way.
I learned the meaning of storytelling from him.
I considered making this with a different director...
But we made the theatrical version together.
We spent lots of time and effort to finish it.
And it's one of my favorite projects.
So, I couldn't think of changing directors.
I want people understand that this is the reason why it took 15 years.
Now here's the Golgo we made after a long interval.
- We were very enthusiastic! - Yes. Look at this opening!
- When we made the theatrical version... - I know. I know.
- We used CG to make a skeleton. - I see. You had to do it again.
First, we drew this and played with a computer generated copy.
I see.
- And it metamorphoses into the metal. - I see.
- Isn't that great? - Well, I can tell you tried a lot.
I think Golgo must have...
a skeleton.
It's the trademark of Golgo.
Yes it is. About this building...
we played with it a lot.
Mr. Fujimaru Yoshino... Music.
We needed some jazzy elements.
Just like the previous theatrical version...
We stuck with Jerrry Macy when we made the theatrical version.
I thought I shouldn't make this sound too Japanese.
Seeing Mr. Utagawa's credit reminds me that I gave him a hard time.
- He's still talking to me. - Is he?
He said Golgo's video was still in the red.
Really?
I guess the whole production was in the red.
Do you remember we argued very strongly about the character of one woman?
I remember.
We created the character Queen Bee.
She's different from Leonard Dawson. (from the first film)
And, she's different from Laura (from the first film)
Yes... different from Laura.
We had a strong will to create and develop this new female character.
I thought my view of women had also changed a lot after I did this.
Really?
Yes... Sonia... you will know when you see this. She sleeps with so many men.
Her life and sex have a strong connection.
Why shouldn't women sleep with a lot of men?
I don't think like that.
Public opinion has it that men are irrational...
and can sleep with lots of women. But women shouldn't be like that.
I think that theory is an illusion.
I think men and women should have lots of sex until they die.
- Though, I think that's too much to say. - Yes, it's too much to say.
I know it's too much to say... but...
I think the meaning of sex is very important for people's life and soul.
If you want to feel another person, you don't need words or logic.
- Especially between men and women. - Yes.
We argued about these things before we made this movie...
so I want to explain it now.
We discussed how the idea of a woman who sleeps with so many men...
is considered dirty and how that all got started.
We couldn't develop Sonia's character unless we discussed these topics.
We told you that Sonia is a very beautiful woman.
Yes, I think she's beautiful. She's cool!
Yes, she is cool.
We thought there should be a woman who sleeps with many men...
and still, she remains very cool.
We argued that only men create fantasies about women...
who don't sleep with lots of men. We argued that only men create fantasies about women...
who don't sleep with lots of men.
Since then, I thought that a woman...
even if she sleeps with lots of men, can be portrayed as strong and stable.
When I talk about sex itself, the number of men and women...
who are having sex in this world is exactly balanced.
Isn't it? Except when it's men with men or women with women.
The number of men and women who are having sex is the same.
Yes.
After we understand this basic idea, we can observe Sonia's character.
Now, somebody from the booth is telling us "don't carry this sex talk so far".
Young people might think this kind of talk is dirty.
I don't mean to talk dirty.
I want people who watch this DVD to understand...
when I talk about Sonia's character, women and sex...
I mean we couldn't create Sonia if we think of sex as a dirty issue. when I talk about Sonia's character, women and sex...
I mean we couldn't create Sonia if we think of sex as a dirty issue.
But I can't ignore the director of this commentary track...
they will cut this out if I continue to talk about sex too much... but...
especially to create Sonia's character, we had to make her view of sex open.
That also allows her mind to be free.
It was very important to give her some sexual freedom.
I didn't want to create her image as so simple.
I didn't want to make her character as most men would easily think of.
That's more of an issue of soul rather than body.
If Sonia starts to loose her soul, then I think it's different...
but she doesn't (Iose her soul).
Her soul gets stronger and stronger.
I wanted to explain these things first...
so people could watch Sonia and make this story much more clear.
I want to people to understand.
I was in love with her when I made this.
- Were you? - Yes.
Although, her breasts are a little too big.
That's brings up another controversy.
The commentary track director, Yamashita, might be worrying because...
we might talk about women and sex with a middle age man's dirty thoughts.
No we won't.
- We might do that a little bit. - Maybe.
Being the middle age men that we are...
Now I see them holding a card saying "I don't think you'd do that"...
Well, anyhow...
There's a big enemy in this story, just like any other in the Golgo world. Well, anyhow...
There's a big enemy in this story, just like any other in the Golgo world.
There are some bi-sexual characters who appear in here, too.
- We argued about that, too. - Yes we did. I didn't know what to do.
The reason why some sexual problem is always surrounding to Golgo is...
well for example, in the movie we made fifteen years ago...
there is a scene where Laura is raped by a brute named Snake.
I think it's because, sex represents peoples' views of life is in the story. there is a scene where Laura is raped by a brute named Snake.
I think it's because, sex represents peoples' views of life is in the story.
I think it's true. Golgo represents death, doesn't he?
If we want to describe death, we have to define life clearly, too. I think it's true. Golgo represents death, doesn't he?
If we want to describe death, we have to define life clearly, too.
- I said something too cool. - It's all right.
The reason why bi-sexuality shows up in the Golgo world...
is because there's a strong deduction. I feel deduction of the human mind.
In other words, I feel these characters are people...
who think of everything very deeply.
Therefore, I think I should accept people who are living as bi-sexual. who think of everything very deeply.
Therefore, I think I should accept people who are living as bi-sexual.
They are just living individual lives doing all the things that exist today.
Any character could be this way because Golgo is not a simple action story.
So many burning emotions and passions are inside of people.
We wanted to create a drama with those elements.
That's the style we tried to create.
We couldn't make this story without these elements.
In the beginning, I didn't understand why.
You told me so.
I didn't understand why, but I did as I was told to do.
I remember that.
So I said "I got it"and went with it. I didn't study homosexuality, but...
I was ready to make something.
- Then I created the kiss scene. - Yes you did.
The kiss scene (of Hardy and Waltham.) - Then I created the kiss scene. - Yes you did.
The kiss scene (of Hardy and Waltham.)
Then after you guys made me create it, you said "please don't use this."
What was it all for then? What did you mean?
I meant, after seeing it, when I thought about actually showing it in public...
To society?
Well, I mean... it is...
You decided to sit on the fence?
I guess so. That's might be it. I can't make any excuses.
The kiss scene with Waltham and Hardy. After I saw the kiss scene very clearly...
I thought Golgo shouldn't go that far. When I saw it, I felt some fear.
But I thought I made the scene beautiful.
Well, beautiful or not...
A scene of such men in their prime, kissing and their saliva dripping...
I felt that kind of graphic exposition would have some negative image...
that people couldn't wipe away.
Of course, we wanted to include it.
But we weren't trying to make this movie thematically bi-sexual or homosexual.
It's all right to have those elements, but...
I thought Golgo 13's character should be the center of this movie...
to develop the story with the events.
I thought if we portray sex in too strong of a way...
the main theme of the movie would change.
Well, "I sat on the fence" is a good way to say it. What I said is all excuses...
But those are the reasons.
I think I explained these things to you at that time.
I don't know. I can't agree.
You couldn't agree with me then and you couldn't agree now.
It's funny. The director can change his mind anytime.
But I couldn't explain the relationship between Waltham and Hardy...
unless I included that scene.
I knew it.
I see. I knew it.
So nobody knows how they love each other.
But I wanted people to know they have some special feelings for each other.
I wanted to explain why they have to be homosexual.
Waltham is controlling Hardy.
But Hardy may not know he is being controlled.
Hardy is the kind of man who has the talent to be the President.
But if we have to explain so much, the story doesn't move quickly.
So the only way to convince an audience quickly and easily...
is to create a relationship which works. Even it has some irrationality...
Something like they love each other...
just like a man and a woman.
I think that's very true. I finally understand.
Therefore, I told you, you must make it that way.
But, when I saw it visually, I felt it was too strong.
I thought that it was very natural. Maybe I'm gay.
I don't think so. You were trying very hard to understand it.
I'm sure you thought I was making your job complicated.
You called me about three times and said to me you couldn't make that scene.
Yes.
You said "Do we really need that scene?" Well, it's not even a scene.
You asked me "why do we need to make them homosexual?"
So, you called me three times. I was trying to convince you.
And I thought you're a homosexual, too.
Me? I've never had the experience.
I'm very ignorant in that area.
I'm very straight.
But sometimes I feel like I want to understand it. I'm very straight.
But sometimes I feel like I want to understand it.
Don't you think so?
We may have an inferiority complex because we aren't homosexual.
There are so many homosexuals working in the creative industry...
and they are very talented.
This is just a general idea but their vision toward art is...
If I say everybody is like that, people might get angry...
so I don't mean everybody, but...
I feel they are very talented.
When I create something, since I don't have homosexual sense...
I feel like I'm lacking some talent towards an artistic vision.
So, I want to understand.
There is a movie that my friend made.
I also invested in it.
The director is Hector Babenko and the producer is David Weisman.
The writer is Lenard Schralder who also wrote "The Man Who Stole the Sun"
The movie was "Kiss of Spider Woman". The writer is Lenard Schralder who also wrote "The Man Who Stole the Sun"
The movie was "Kiss of Spider Woman".
There's a scene where William Hurt tells his mom...
If my memory is correct, he says "I wasn't a good son..."
"but why can't a man be more sensitive than a woman?"
I got an electric shock when I heard that line.
I understand.
Yes. At that moment, I felt the sensitivity and smell for art...
I mean the ability to feel something inside your mind doesn't depend on...
if you're a man or a woman.
The ability to feel something is not superior to your gender.
So, I was shocked by it.
I might be wrong, but I understood it that way.
So, I wanted to tell you that Waltham and Hardy are homosexuals...
and it's very important to the story.
I was ready to do anything. I'm a professional fiction writer.
When I make a fictional story, I have to relate to it deeply inside my mind.
Yes.
For that reason, I suffered a little bit.
But as a result, I feel it turned out a perfect level of homosexuality.
It also helped to move the story.
Sonia's very good scene will be coming up.
Yes.
I didn't know why it was a bow-gun, but I'm glad it was a bow-gun.
I think so too.
It's because he came out from the water. Wasn't that the reason?
It might be.
I think there was some reason.
We didn't pick a bow-gun without any reason.
I thought we checked thoroughly as it relates to the coherency of the story.
But, big fans who watch this over and over...
sometimes point out our mistakes or carelessness.
I also wanted them to find it more in this movie.
- Oh, one more bullet hit him. - Yes.
- I think it's better than OVA quality. - We spent a lot of money.
I think so... honestly
The company who invested in this movie was BMG Japan.
They always complained to me "why is this going so slow" over and over.
Because it was slow.
One reason it was slow was because you and Sugino weren't always available.
It took a long time to make after we finished the script.
Two years.
It took two years.
Mr. Akihiro Tago is now a very successful trendy TV drama scriptwriter...
He's the master (of trendy drama)
I can't forget his impressive writing.
He wrote 8 drafts.
But after the fourth and fifth draft...
We were hesitant to tell him to rewrite this.
But he did it on his own.
Yes... He would say "wait a minute, I get it. I want to rewrite it."
He attended every meeting to change the script.
Whenever he was leaving, I would go talk to him.
I thought I should apologize to him, for putting him in that situation.
But he said he was really enjoying it. I was so impressed by him.
I think he's lying.
But after all that, he wrote 8 drafts.
Like that famous dog in Shibuya.
I really appreciated him.
- I like Benning. - Ah, Benning.
He has post traumatic stress disorder.
- He's playing the piano. - Yes.
He needs order.
You use freeze frame a lot.
Looks like it's backlit.
- But, it's a very unique style. - Yes.
I think so.
It creates very impressive moments.
When did you start using that style? I saw it in "Ashita No Joe", too.
Since "Joe"?
Since "Joe".
- You mean "Tomorrow's Joe"... - Yes.
How can I explain... it's...
Let's be honest, it's because of the low budget...
- No, not at all. - Is that so?
- First, I was doing oil paintings. - Oh, really?
- For all the freeze frame scenes. - I see.
But it costs a lot of money and time.
So, I changed to drawings over time.
First, I thought this is weaker than painting.
So, let's turn painting into film.
There are so many reasons at the time I was using that.
How do you like Golgo 13 voice, Tesho Genda?
Yes, I like him.
Don't you?
I like his voice, too.
He came two hours late for the voice recording.
So, we recorded all the other voices.
He came two hours late, so I thought...
"oh no, I have to spend two more hours again"but...
There were only 5 long lines for Golgo 13's part.
- Oh, I see. - So he finished very quickly.
I think it make sense.
So we all laughed.
I didn't realize it then.
I was watching Golgo on the screen all throughout the movie.
So I thought he has so many lines.
I thought it'll take a long time to record.
- His character is very quiet. - Yes.
Golgo doesn't talk much.
So, I thought this job was a good deal for him.
It worked well for him.
He was very happy and thankful to us.
That's good. He has a great and likable voice.
- She's Queen Bee, Joanna, and Sonia. - Yes.
I think Queen Bee must be the most difficult voice for her.
I love this scene.
Yes, this scene...
She's the ideal woman character.
This scene reminds me of that place...
I visited the studio in Hama-cho while they were recording.
Dezaki, what do you think about a woman who sleeps with her boss?
Can you associate with it?
Her boss?
I mean he is her commander.
The commander who gives orders to her.
So, how could she...
You mean with her superior?
Yes, including the fact that he is much older than her.
- I think it could happen. - Could it? I see.
That's not only the reason, but those create some elements.
I think so.
I never had such an experience.
I have some mysterious feelings about that.
If she thought he was very cold and arrogant first...
but if it turned out he was really very sweet...
she may feel she's discovered something new.
I see.
She may feel that she touched his mind.
We're starting to talk about those things again.
Waltham is a very bad person.
I like him, but I can't stand him.
It was the scene after this. The girl's blood flows onto the car seat.
- We cut that out. - Yes... Yes...
Yes, I requested to cut that out.
Well, I didn't like it, either.
I think just the indication was enough.
I think so.
The scene would be too painful with a child.
I thought so, too. The child's scene isn't necessary.
I can stand the scenes like this and Laura's in the previous movie.
But the girl is...
Yes, the child was too much.
When we describe a character like Laura...
I'm sorry to talk about sex again, but...
don't you think those kinds of scenes are necessary?
Yes.
She's got some freedom.
I felt that, now, she could become very strong to move on.
Yes.
Maybe, I feel that sex is binding on women.
I really think a woman should be more active in sex.
Not just be passive.
- Should be more active? - Yes.
To express themselves...
And I think it's a very natural way to express themselves.
Just like men. And I think it's a very natural way to express themselves.
Just like men.
I think men are all alike, but women are not.
That's mens dogma and prejudice.
I like this scene a lot.
Just move the backgrounds to make the scene look very dynamic.
Benning is a good character.
Yes he is. Benning is a good character.
But I feel sorry for him, too.
Yes, I feel sorry for him, too.
Benning is a similar character to Snake or Gold and Silver from the first movie.
But he has a much deeper personality.
- He's more sensitive. - He doesn't have cold blood.
- He even plays piano. - Yes, he's an artist.
She became stronger after she confronted this kind of situation.
I think so. She feels like she's dealing with life or death.
I wanted to describe a woman who battles at the front lines...
but she could still keep her beauty.
If she needs sex when she is living on the border of life and death...
that's what she does.
- Here's the climax. - Yes.
There was that scene with the child being shot.
Yes.
I remember we discussed that scene, but I can't remember what we discussed.
Sonia went to bury her son.
She was crying there.
So, we discussed something about the scene very deeply. What was it?
What was it?
Let me remember.
If I see the scene, I'll remember.
From the director's point of view, did Sugino's drawing style change...
compared to fifteen years ago?
I think it became a lot sharper.
It became sharper.
Yes.
I can tell... The way he draws the lines and so on.
He might have done it because it was the taste of the times.
I can't tell whether it's good or bad.
He mightjust have simply improved or he intentionally developed that style...
or he just did it because it was the taste of the time.
I think artists tend to make their lines simpler over time.
But I think Akira Sugino's drawing still has passion.
But when we compare his artwork with "Tomorrow's Joe"it got a lot simpler.
Yes.
But the women's faces he draws are very beautiful, as usual.
- He's very good. - Yes.
Compared to the time when we first started to use computer graphics...
the animation drawing technique has strongly improved.
Yes it has.
Now we're using computer graphics for drawing or fire effects.
We also use computers for composition a lot more these days in animation.
We are now using a very natural shading technique.
Although, people still say it's very hard work.
Is it still hard to do?
Of course! It took extra time & money, so we took it out of the camera budget. Is it still hard to do?
Of course! It took extra time & money, so we took it out of the camera budget.
I see. Of course! It took extra time & money, so we took it out of the camera budget.
So, currently, the shading is... Well, it has some shadow in it, too...
This is it.
It's very rare to find images which don't have those effects.
Yes.
Yes, it's in there.
Sonia also has motherhood.
That was what we were discussing...
in this scene.
- We discussed why she's crying here. - Yes.
We didn't want to her to cry just because she's sentimental...
with motherhood.
We said "Is this the attitude of a leader of this war front?".
Now I remember. That was the discussion.
We concluded that it's alright.
Yes, it is.
I was concerned about what Golgo thinks of Sonia.
She has been living very honestly with herself.
Well, that's not totally true. She also had a lot of hard times.
I wonder about when she asked Golgo to make love to her...
how did Golgo feel about her.
There's also the scene when they had sex after the bar...
but this scene is totally different.
Yes.
She said that she wants to have his child.
I think Golgo thought she was different from him...
that she is trying to live her life to the fullest.
I imagined that he might have fallen in love with her a little bit.
Men can have sex with women who have generosity.
Yes.
He did it because Sonia said so...
I mean, because Sonia wants to have sex with him whether he loves her or not.
But if he did itjust because he was being nice then...
it's an offence.
I mean if he thought "All right, I don't mind doing that"...
No it's not like that!
I said it's not.
He truly fell in love with her. I said it's not.
He truly fell in love with her.
He truly accepted her.
At least I thought so.
He has the face, but I don't think he has that kind of personality.
He doesn't show his feelings on his face.
I wondered what I would do if I was Golgo.
Golgo accepts the way she lives.
I showed this to some people in the US...
and one person really got mad.
But there are always people like that.
Is this insulting the American President?
Yes, him being homosexual and having done so many awful things in the past.
Yes.
But, I thought it's a great thing...
that he was taking the animation so seriously.
It might be a good sign of success.
He took it so seriously.
Yes.
So, I said to him...
"Wait a second..."
"you don't have to protect politicians so strongly."
"There are so many dirty politicians in Japan, too."
I basically don't like politicians.
So, it's all right.
I'm not talking about the American President only.
I'm talking about the Japanese and the entire world.
Because the politicians have these kinds of elements within them.
Of course there are people who aren't like this.
But we aren't depicting those kinds of people.
I said that to him.
I see.
Politicians have to follow many rules...
so if some tragedy happens, it must usually be a big one.
I think so.
There are so many things they have to cover-up.
I feel sorry for them.
- Everybody has dirt in their past. - I don't have any dirt.
Oh, please. Come on!
Why don't you put your right hand on your heart and swear?
All right, I have. Yes.
We aren't always living so clean.
We are living with poison all over.
There are no rules to live by.
I think we all have some guilt.
I can't help it, because we are all born with some guilt.
This is not something that relates to Golgo, but...
when I think about the guilt that we have for polluting the Earth...
for the past fifty years...
nothing more than that makes me surprised.
I'm not surprised.
Anything can happen.
It doesn't mean that it's all right that it happens...
but anything can possibly happen.
Oh, good.
He knows the weakness of others very well.
I hate people like that. Whatever works for them.
Yes.
- But this character is interesting. - I agree.
I get motivated when I look at somebody like Waltham.
I think he's very interesting.
So if Waltham asks us not to kill him it's more valuable than...
- Hardy doing the same thing. - Much more!
- It has more meaning. - It does.
He has a strong character, so I feel I want to do something to him.
But that's the interesting part about being human, it's just like a game.
So it's not fun to play the game against Hardy...
but I think I could have more fun to play games against Waltham.
Waltham's mistake was letting Hardy become tired.
He had weak nerves to begin with. I think he was overloaded.
I think the character who has the qualification to become president is...
He doesn't have the qualifications?
He doesn't have the character of a president.
- Realistically... no. - No.
But it's more interesting because he has a conflicting character...
that's not fit to be the President.
He's too sensitive.
For example, parents tell their child "you will go to a certain university".
But the child thinks he doesn't have the ability to go to medical school.
But he forced himself to go and fortunately, he became a doctor.
But it will haunt him.
Yes, many patients may die because he makes the wrong diagnosis.
Therefore, this is the same thing...
I mean Hardy did the same thing...
If the relationship between two of them was more simple...
it doesn't have any reality.
I see.
Oh, this line.
It needed to be a big betrayal...
otherwise there wouldn't be enough impact to the story.
So the homosexuality was very important.
It's raining again.
- Laura's rain. - Yes.
I suffered about how should I end this.
This is the movie we made two years ago?
On Robert Hardy's gravestone...
it says born in 1948 and died in 2000. He lived for 52 years.
Was there any specific reason why you used the year 2000...
for a movie made in 1998? Was there any specific reason why you used the year 2000...
for a movie made in 1998?
I assume some art designer drew that in quickly.
Did they ask you if they could write in 2000?
Well, I think I wrote 2000 on the storyboard.
You did? Really.
Did you have some reason to use a future date?
Well, because...
We often suffer to the little things like that.
I thought the year 2000 would come anyway.
Oh.
But that was the set up for the story.
The presidential election was in the year 2000.
It's this year?
Oh, you might be right.
You calculated the years.
Yes.
- I guess we are smart. - We are smart!
Of course!
Golgo must always put his hands in his pockets.
He already shot her.
- Well! - This once ended here.
Yes, yes.
Then we put another ending on the fifth credit.
I'm sure people thought it's not fair how it first ended.
They think "Was that it"?
"What happened to the evil Waltham?"
"What's going on with Waltham?"
We made people think so, once.
We intended to do that.
"Oh no, the bad people get to live."
But please watch this well.
I want to talk over the credits.
We made one movie fifteen years ago...
and we made another one two years ago.
Yes.
We have to make another new movie.
Are you serious about that?
I want to make it.
After we made Golgo...
I felt we could make a lot more.
Oh, of course. That's the meaning of our job.
Oh, it started.
It's the ending.
If you have a plan, then I want to make a lot more of Golgo.
Pioneer LDC is releasing this DVD in Japan.
Let's encourage ourselves and...
after this release... Pioneer LDC Japan! By all means (sponsor us)!
Is LDC offering to pay the entire budget?
- Well, let's have them pay! - Oh, yes.
I don't know about the entire budget. I'm a producer, so...
- I can't depend on them for everything. - I understand.
But the owner is a big fan of yours.
It seems like he wants you to create other movies.
So, I would ask him to hire me as a producer.
It's more fun to make this with everybody, together.
Let's do it!
He is now 35 or 36 years old.
That means he was around 20, fifteen years ago, when he saw the first movie.
I see.
He might like the nude scenes.
Well, surprisingly, he knows a lot about animation.
It's easy to just say "he might like the nude scenes"...
but it's not like that.
He has a lot of knowledge.
I know. He knows a lot more about this than I do.
We may create a great project if he joins us.
Let's have him attend the script meetings.
Of course.
That's the way to make a movie... together.
Let's have him suffer through it.
Yes, it's very hard!
DVD Commentary Translated by REl KO MATSUO I guess my time's up. Commentary by Osamu Dezaki.
DVD Subtitles by NEW GENERATION PICTURES And the person who want to make more of this series...
Mataichiro Yamamoto, the producer.
See you again!